Anna

Boring.

They can suck my inverted dick. 🍆🌮

Anyway, I do understand where you’re coming from. I just didn’t like the word choice of that article. We’re all terrified right now. But we’ve always survived, and we will again. But things will probably go back to how they were when I started this, which were not good. Ugh.

Transferring trans women to men’s prisons, shaving their heads, and throwing them in with the male population? *That’s* forced detransition (and horribly, is a thing which has happened)

Who’s saying HRT isn’t necessary? This EO is about expelling trans folks from the military for Cristofascist reasons. That puts them out of a job and violates the Constitution, but it doesn’t force them to detransition.

Also, who the heck do you think I am?? I cagey with my identity online because, again, dangerous times. But it should be obvious that we're on the same side.

If someone posts, "trans people are being killed at this location," I read that as they're actually being shot/stabbed/etc.

And that's where we could be headed.

Using words precisely is important.

I'm just not familiar with your perspective. Something being unpleasant or worsening your mental health does not, in most cases, lead *immediately* to death. So, I'm saying, let's be specific with our words. These are dangerous times.

Let's turn that question around: Do you actually believe that stopping depression meds or HRT instantly kills you? Like, how, for example, a diabetic not getting insulin could potentially be life threatening. You know that's not true of (most) depression meds or HRT, right?

Because the military controls all aspects of your life -- you give up civil rights to enlist. But if you *really* think that's possible, I'll ask one of my trans vet friends. She'll probably go off on some weird, traumatic tale; she always does.

Yes, I completely understand your concern, and we're not actually disagreeing. I'm commenting on the extremely all-or-nothing nature of trans discourse, though I do get where it's coming from.

Also, trans vets. No one seems to be concerned about that. Do you think they don't exist?

I seriously doubt there are stealth trans folks in the military.

Pausing HRT is not medically fatal. You're exaggerating to make a point. I understand the reason why, but I don't think it's helpful. We're in a very dangerous time -- misinformation is bad.

So, agree to disagree, I guess. My concern is really with the misinformation.

Yeah, I get it.

Guess I haven’t felt that way about HRT in quite a while.

I barely take any hormones these days. Doctor weans you off eventually (when you’re older).

People won’t think you’re “valid” if you’re not on HRT? I never thought of it that way. I was always more focused on the social aspect. But eventually, I stopped caring what people thought (almost) entirely.

Guess I see where you’re coming from, though. This is all super scary.

I think it would be extremely upsetting, but not fatal or permanently damaging.

What do *you* think it would do?

What do you think the term, “hyperbolic,” means? I don’t agree with what’s happening; I just don’t like the word choice.

Me too, sorry.

I think “forced detransition” is more like putting us all in a camp, and torturing us if we don’t comply.

Taking away someone’s HRT is absolutely *not* that.

Things might get a lot worse.

You wrote, “…isn’t really helpful.” You said my opinion wasn’t helpful.

But yes, I guess I was reading more malice into it than was really there.

So, the point I’m making is “not helpful” and “not allowed??” Do you hear yourself?

Our community needs lots of thinkers and ideas to fight. Drowning out minor, dissenting opinions hurts no one.

The trans echo chamber on here is out of hand. Absolutely no opinions allowed which don’t toe the line.

Not good.

Yet another place where I’m the wrong type of queer.

Yes, I’m familiar.

You can survive stopping HRT for a while. I’ve done it, as have many people I’ve know over the years.

Maybe try opening your mind to opinions of the trans community that are a little different than yours??

I’m really not. Read between the lines a little.

It’s disturbing how strict the orthodoxy is in our discourse. Group-think is never a good thing.

We’re on the same side. We don’t need to have identical opinions.

Haha what?? You’re actually calling me a, “TERF?” (and you think I’m a twink?? 😆)

I don’t think you realize how much worse this could get. You *will* survive without your HRT — lots of us have for long periods of time. It sucks. But it’s usually not fatal.

It’s not fatal to stop taking HRT.

I mean, I did ask my doctor about it. Their practice has been practicing trans medicine for decades. After you physically develop to the point you want, HRT doesn’t do much.

As it is, I take very, very little, and I’m fine.

That’s not true — I know from personal experience. You can live without gonads or hormones. There are some definite downsides, but they’re absolutely not fatal.

Don’t spread falsehoods.

Huh?

Are you saying we do? Lots of people don’t transition medically.

Anyway, yes, the forced deadnaming and what not is essentially forced social detransition.

But again, let’s look out for the vets. I have trans vet friends who are disabled from combat, and rely on the VA for financial support.