Nudism on Screen

And let's not forget how nudism's been linked to eugenics in some cases.

Hot take, but, that's not even close to being true. Considering most bigotry isn't exactly clothing-based, most of that doesn't just go away. Also, there's a reason marginalised communities don't join nudist clubs.

Perhaps there's less classism, but I'd imagine there's a chance of more ableism.

Need to look into that one. For some reason, already added to my IMDb watchlist.

It's already on the list.

I'd just do it as a bit of fun, but, definitely would be careful not to venture into misogynistic territory, primarily by humanising women, rather than using them as an eye candy kinda thing.

Yeah, people need to be careful including children in nudist content. How things are shot is important.

Best bet is usually to keep them in the background, and if in the foreground, shoot above the waist.

...are causing harm.

Like how a lot of transphobes think all trans women are sexual predators. Of course, that's absurd, but because they believe that, they see trans people as a threat, when in reality, most aren't.

I mean, there's definitely things people say that shouldn't be accepted (like bigotry, or anything that may lead to harm), but I get what you mean.

Generally, if it's not causing anyone harm, it's probably fine to agree to disagree. Problem is, people think that those that disagree with them...

Which, doesn't exactly help fight against the reputation we have.

I know some of it is that the media will want us to play into that stereotype, because it benefits them (memorable TV), and there's always going to be someone willing to play along, regardless of the impact on the rest of us.

...nudism isn't about being naked all the time. Generally, we're only naked when it's suitable. We recognise that not everyone will be comfortable around nudity, and so we aren't going to force them to be around it. Not what Helen does though.

Not to mention, it just makes us look odd.

Like, the face of nudism here in the UK is pretty much Helen Berriman, who has made numerous national TV appearances, while naked (and being the only one, unless Simon is present, then there's 2).

Personally, I don't think that's good or accurate rep for us. I mean...

As a community, we don't tend to platform the best examples. I swear, most nudists just like to platform anyone who says they're a nudist, or praise any level of media rep.

Because that's what they've seen. That's what they were told.

Honestly, it's not that hard to just accept you could be wrong, and look things up. I do it all the time. And yet, something's telling me, that any reading this, will continue with the same mindset.

Same thing that leads to bigotry, or believing 'rap fatigue' is a thing. People don't do research. They don't look things up. They don't see the full picture, just their limited experience.

It also leads to people thinking nudism is nothing more than being naked, and think it's also sexual.

Well, something that's become very apparent to me lately, is that people don't like thinking, or doing research. So people just end up believing the first thing they hear on a topic, and don't question it.

The worst are the ones of men standing in the middle of a room, usually with hands on hips and the camera angled up a bit.

Like, what is this for?

Well, yeah, but that's not what I have issue with. Sharing those images are fine, but I'm talking about stuff that has no purpose other than "look at me, I'm naked".

If it's a photo of someone doing something, and they happen to be naked, that's different.

Might get back into doing watch parties on Discord. Finding time to do it, that other people can also do it, is a challenge.

The films, or the lists? Because I'm UK-based too.

I might need to do a guide for where people can watch them. Some can be found on places like the Internet Archive, or YouTube. I bought most of the 60s ones from Something Weird, when they did digital.

...just post porn and photos of their genitals and stuff. That's definitely not a nudist/naturist thing to do (tired of blocking them).

Nothing against porn, but when claiming to be nudist, there's a responsibility to separate the two.

Photos can still be beneficial, but, generally they have purpose. Like, it can be good to show what naturism is actually about (I've always been more of a visual learner), but most "naturist" photos don't help, at all.

Still, could be worse. Could be those that claim to be nudist but...

Yeah, unfortunately. At least the AANR has a woman in charge, so that's something.

SANNA's interesting though. South Africa's 80% black, yet, 1 black guy on the entire website. Wonder why that is.

Not gonna lie, so did I. Was hoping to do 'The Beast That Killed Nude Women on the Moon'. A combination of a classic, plus 'Nude on the Moon' (heh).

Not the most serious idea I've had though. That I just want to do for fun.

Proof of that is that BN's membership tripled during the pandemic, and loads of young people take part in the events (where there's actually interesting stuff to do).

Has Bill O'Reilly ever seen any 2003 tabloid magazine? Or ever been on tabloid websites? Places are filled with 'such-and-such was at a nude beach' "articles".

And the classism thing is that clothing was a symbol of wealth. Ancient Egypt, nudity was commonplace, until the rich started wearing expensive linens to show off their wealth, thus shaming those who didn't have those linens.

By labelling nudity as 'uncivilised', they label certain communities as 'uncivilised', thus stigmatising those communities, and the nudity as well.

Religion's played a huge part in that. And yet, it is religious texts that teach that nudity existed before sin/evil.

My theory is that the stigma around nudity stems from colonialism and classism. I mean, they say nudity is 'uncivilised', a term they often use to refer to indigenous communities. They aren't uncivilised, it just doesn't fit the white western idea of civilisation.

You could argue it isn't naturism, in that, nudity was the norm for many indigenous communities (still is for some).

Nevertheless, if naturists yearn for returning to an Eden-like state, why the heck would they ignore communities that never adopted a colonial mindset?

Which is why there's been a massive push for including people from marginalised backgrounds in major roles, like directors, writers, producers, etc.

And that's not to say cishet white guys can't do good stories on marginalised communities, they just need to do research.